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Post by Dillzio on Apr 26, 2010 15:00:15 GMT 1
Yeah, I have a good selection of props. I'm also ordering some 9x5s in case the props I have draw too much current. I have a wattmeter in the cart, and I'm using pretty much all stock pushrods/clevis's and horns.
I'm planning on making my own mount out of a cut down gearbox and a sheet of perspex.
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Post by ginginho on Apr 26, 2010 15:09:58 GMT 1
Yeah, I have a good selection of props. I'm also ordering some 9x5s in case the props I have draw too much current. I have a wattmeter in the cart, and I'm using pretty much all stock pushrods/clevis's and horns. I'm planning on making my own mount out of a cut down gearbox and a sheet of perspex. Cool. A couple of after thoughts, where you going to mount your ESC? You'll probably need to extend either the motor wires or the ESC-battery ones as it's unlikely either will be long enough to go from the battery box to the cowl. So you may need some silcone wire (18awg will be about the right size if battery-ESC is being extended, smaller if it's ESC-motor). If you don't get any bullets with the motor, you'll need three sets of those, 3.5 or 4mm will suit. Batteries come with your connector of choice or you already have spares? |
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Post by Dillzio on Apr 26, 2010 15:21:36 GMT 1
I collect lots of junk, which usually amounts to me having enough spares to get me by. If I don't have the appropriate gauge of wire the hardware store isn't far away.
Can't say I'm sure where I'm mounting anything yet, but I'd like to have as much in the cowl as possible. I'll have to wait and see how it all comes together to see where it all fits.
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Post by Dillzio on Apr 26, 2010 15:40:13 GMT 1
Put the order through :-)
SKU Description Qty STATUS
CS928BB Corona 928BB Servo 2.0kg/ 9g/ 0.13 6 Backorder
HK-T6A-M2 Hobby King 2.4Ghz 6Ch Tx & Rx (Mod 1 Reserved
FS-L001 Hobby King 2.4Ghz 6Ch Tx USB Cable 1 Reserved
AM2001-15x10 15CM Servo Lead Extention (Futaba) 1 Backorder
F26SL-30x10 30CM Servo Lead Extention (Futaba) 1 Backorder
TR-35-ACC TURNIGY 35-XX series Spare access 1 Backorder
TR35-30C-1100 TR 35-30C 1100kv Brushless Outrunn 1 Backorder
Z22003S20C ZIPPY Flightmax 2200mAh 3S1P 20C 4 Reserved
MA0950 Master Airscrew propeller 9x5 3 Reserved
TR-Wattmeter Turnigy Watt Meter and power Analy 1 Reserved
LUM-ONF Turnigy Receiver Controlled Switch 1 Backorder
SBEC-26V Turnigy 5A (8-26v) SBEC for Lipo 1 Reserved
TR_P25A TURNIGY Plush 25amp Speed Control 1 Backorder
TR_PC TURNIGY BESC Programming Card 1 Reserved
HK-LSR_LVL Laser guided leveler 1 Reserved
XD-119-4B X-BLADE Precision knife with repla 1 Backorder
XD-KP-237 X-BLADE Spare SK-5 Steel blades (1 2 Backorder
BOX-76g Extra Size Cardboard Box and Packi 1 Reserved
Shipment Air Parcel (AUSTRALIA) 2500g - 2999g $32.71
Taxes $0.00
Total $218.39
Credit Total
Order Messages;
Notes;
Discount code: RV0D7D32D4-E0F9-4 $1.87
Customer paid with: instant
HK Absorbed PayPal Charge:5.54
Now I've got the electronics sorted I guess I better sort out the plane huh?
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Post by badlands on Apr 26, 2010 15:58:43 GMT 1
Cool - might have a bit of a wait thou as HK dont split orders.
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Post by Dillzio on Apr 26, 2010 17:09:34 GMT 1
awwwww  From what I've read, to have flapperons you have to use all 3 mix settings on the radio. That would leave me without being able to mix elevator with the flaperons to make it fly straight with flaps down, and without being able to mix rudder with ailerons to prevent any tail-wagging during rolls. |
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Post by killioughtta on Apr 26, 2010 18:32:37 GMT 1
awwwww From what I've read, to have flapperons you have to use all 3 mix settings on the radio. That would leave me without being able to mix elevator with the flaperons to make it fly straight with flaps down, and without being able to mix rudder with ailerons to prevent any tail-wagging during rolls. That's alright; you don't have to mix all those fancy-zmancy mixes. Just learn to do it with your thumbs  Or put separate flaps  |
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Post by Dillzio on Apr 27, 2010 7:32:39 GMT 1
awwwww From what I've read, to have flapperons you have to use all 3 mix settings on the radio. That would leave me without being able to mix elevator with the flaperons to make it fly straight with flaps down, and without being able to mix rudder with ailerons to prevent any tail-wagging during rolls. That's alright; you don't have to mix all those fancy-zmancy mixes. Just learn to do it with your thumbs Or put separate flaps Separate flaps might be the way to go, luckily you convinced me to add another couple of servos to my cart If you do have flaps, do you have to use one of the mixes to set them up, or can you just set them to run off a switch without setting up a mix? Also, if I'm not going flapperons I can use a Y-harness for the ailerons and free up a channel and a mix on the radio. If both servos are hooked up together, can it be a problem not being able to adjust their range of motion and sub-trim individually? I suppose with both ailerons on the same channel you couldn't program differential either, you'd have to do something clever with the angle of the push rods or something like that? |
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Post by ginginho on Apr 27, 2010 9:28:34 GMT 1
Hmm, in your previous cart list you had a mode2 Tx listed. You now have posted that ordered a mode 1. Did you mean to change that? As for the mixes, I'm with Erwin, that's why you have thumbs!!! TBH, I tried flaperons and didn't find it of much use. |
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Post by Dillzio on Apr 27, 2010 12:15:03 GMT 1
Hmm, in your previous cart list you had a mode2 Tx listed. You now have posted that ordered a mode 1. Did you mean to change that? As for the mixes, I'm with Erwin, that's why you have thumbs!!! TBH, I tried flaperons and didn't find it of much use. Yeah, I saw that in the post it looks like a mode 1, it make me double check too, but it a mode 2. The way it pasted in, it pasted the first few characters from each column. "mod" from "mode 2" and 1 from the "qty" column. OK, maybe I'll just save the mixes for the flaps, adding some down elevator as necessary. What about setting the differential on the ailerons, do you have to have them on different channels to program it? |
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Post by john66 on Apr 27, 2010 21:07:06 GMT 1
How bout building one of these? This is a friends plane, this is a sweet flyer. It's got a headsuprc/value hobby 3530-11 in it. It zooms. He's also got a clipped/straight wing, aileron, 2830-? headsuprc/VH cub. Its flys nice as well. ahhhhh, the Souper Cub! John |
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Post by Legotisnotloggedon on Apr 28, 2010 4:52:44 GMT 1
I don`t beleive that they need to be on diffferent channels. I'vn't used a programable radio (yet), but to me, it seems that if you program differential i one servo port(as long as there is a y-harness) it will transfer to both servos, and since one {servo} is backwards, it will be correct on both.
In theory...
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Post by Legot on Apr 28, 2010 4:57:42 GMT 1
So that's how it should work, it's the same concept as putting flaps on a y-harness with programable throws wit the servos facing the same direction.
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Post by Dillzio on Apr 28, 2010 5:46:08 GMT 1
Yeah, I've been doing some more reading and the only way to set aileron differential is by adjusting the angle of the servo arm and/or the control horn so that you get more throw one way than the other, but this can't get you the fine adjustment you can get with computer differential. If you can adjust your differentials just right, you can eliminate the need for rudder/ailerons mixing to avoid "adverse yaw" when rolling... That's when the down aileron causes drag, which induces a twisting force (yaw) on the airplane that simulates as if you were applying opposite rudder - the most effective way of dealing with it is applying some rudder with the turn to counteract the yaw, but aileron differential can minimise it. To use computer differential, both servos have to be on different channels, because when you use the Y-harness, the up signal of one servo is the down signal for the other, and vice versa, so up 50% on one ailerons is 50% down on the other, they are equal. You need a 100% up signal and a 70% down signal for differential ailerons, so the only way to do it is to have them on seperate channels. If you read this article from the beginning it explains it all really well. www.modelaircraft.org/MAG/FTGU/Part%2031/31main4.html Oh, and here's a great little tutorial on the T6Config software for programming the hobbyking radio. |
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Post by ginginho on Apr 28, 2010 9:38:51 GMT 1
Hmm, in your previous cart list you had a mode2 Tx listed. You now have posted that ordered a mode 1. Did you mean to change that? As for the mixes, I'm with Erwin, that's why you have thumbs!!! TBH, I tried flaperons and didn't find it of much use. Yeah, I saw that in the post it looks like a mode 1, it make me double check too, but it a mode 2. The way it pasted in, it pasted the first few characters from each column. "mod" from "mode 2" and 1 from the "qty" column. OK, maybe I'll just save the mixes for the flaps, adding some down elevator as necessary. What about setting the differential on the ailerons, do you have to have them on different channels to program it? Ahh ok, that's clear up that one. I see you've answered your own question regarding differential. I also note that you have got the spares pack for your motor, which isn't a bad thing. I assume you you know that you'll have to use the rear mounting prop adaptor (the threaded thing on the right of the HK picture) as the normal shaft exits the wrong end. I had to do the same with mine, I can take some pictures if you need any clues when knocking this up. The Shaft is pretty tough but can be broken, see my avatar.  To use the normal shaft you'd have to have the perspex mounted on pretty long bolts and I doubt it would be very rigid. Oh, and if possible, get the ESC out in the cowl. You'll benefit from better cooling and also moving some weight into the nose, which you will need. One piece of advice. Triple check your control surfaces move in the correct direction before you attempt to get airborne first time. Me, I had the elevator reversed (schoolboy error I know) hence my avatar. My mate recently did the same with his Funjet. He's now nicknamed "Schoolboy". ;D |
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Or put separate flaps 
