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Post by cubflyercameron on Jan 26, 2011 1:25:08 GMT 1
I had nothing to do today, so i ended up cutting out the Ailerons, even though i haven't yet got the servos, motor etc yet I still cut them out and attached the control horns. I ended up using cut up pieces of milk bottle because I had no hinges and you don't have to put vaseline on the actual hinge, because it is just a piece of plastic. Overall I'm very happy with the job, it's not perfect but it's good enough for me! They are 11" long by 1.5" wide, simply to give me enough room for reasonable flaps if I do eventually decide to put flaps on it.
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Post by alaskabliss on Jan 26, 2011 3:32:15 GMT 1
I hope it's not going to be a long wait for the goodies to make it work!!! I do love how we all have come up with our own great home made parts for out planes. Milk jug hinges is a first for me
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Post by cubflyercameron on Jan 26, 2011 3:46:52 GMT 1
Thanks Alaskabliss, parts are being ordered tonight. I can't take all the credit for the hinges, I think it was on NeCubFlyers videos, I'm not too sure, they do work great though!
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Post by pauliepilot on Jan 31, 2011 12:59:52 GMT 1
I have two sc wings one with the ailerons cut out"3cm/33cm" i bought like this but didnt get the ailerons and the other is solor filmed no cut outs from my first sc that i stupidly solor filmed"way to tale heavy" Anyway my questions 1:Will it still fly with the cutouts and no ailerons??? 2:im thinking of useing one servo set up"as iv only one servo laying about" what do i need? Wire/tube/servo horn conecters!...not to forget the milk bottle :-) Any advice wellcome thanks paul
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Post by Dillzio on Jan 31, 2011 13:22:42 GMT 1
Will it still fly, probably, but you'll lose a lot of lift and stability. Be prepared for a higher stall speed, personally I wouldn't risk it.
Secondly, using just one servo. It can be done, there are at least three different ways of doing it, but none of them are as easy, as neat, or work as well as having one servo for each aileron mounted in the wing. The single servo setup will also put the servo under 2-3 times as much load as using 1 servo per aileron (cos it has to move two ailerons, and the gearing, pulleys and cable friction to make 1 servo operate 2 ailerons).
I hope your ailerons are big enough. The cutout for mine is 45mm x 400mm, with the flaps being 150mm and the ailerons 25mm. I suppose with 3cmx33cm ailerons your probably displace about as much air as my 4.5cmx25cm ones.
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Post by pauliepilot on Jan 31, 2011 14:11:18 GMT 1
Oh... sould just spend a little money n get another servo :-) I could cut them bigger being as i havent got the aileron flaps and make them out of bolsa?? Do u think it would work bolsa ailerons!! Would they work just flat ailerons or would i have to shape to the wing!!
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Post by ginginho on Jan 31, 2011 15:35:54 GMT 1
Paul, Yes it will work and is worth getting the extra servo to do it. I helped a mate setup his cub with a single and it took a full day to do. I take it you have a real radio (i.e. not the stock HZ) as you'll need it for dual servos. The reason we did my mates was that he didn't want to invest in a radio and therefore had to re-use the HZ servo (5 wire as apposed to the normal 3) that was on the rudder.
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Post by pauliepilot on Jan 31, 2011 16:01:19 GMT 1
Spektrum dx6i what a gr8 radio,yeah i bought it when id been flying the sc about a month learnt to fly with it n thought i could go for something like a phase3 p40 so i did n got the dx6i at the same time,wish i hadnt bought the p40 smashed glued n boxed :-). Just in the process of glueing bits of milk bottle between bolsa..
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Post by ginginho on Jan 31, 2011 16:53:51 GMT 1
Spektrum dx6i what a gr8 radio,yeah i bought it when id been flying the sc about a month learnt to fly with it n thought i could go for something like a phase3 p40 so i did n got the dx6i at the same time,wish i hadnt bought the p40 smashed glued n boxed :-). Just in the process of glueing bits of milk bottle between bolsa.. Glue everwhere then! ;D Depending on what balsa you are using (sheet I suspect) you may need to strengthen it a bit as it may not be strong enough on it's own. A possible option (if you still have it) is to use a slab of the foam from the SC (or P40) box or something similar, glue that to the balsa sheet, then carve and lightly sand until it has a nice profile that fits the SC wing. You'll need large celled foam and be careful so that cells are not popped out when you sand. If you get it right (have a trial or two) it'll look a bit furry. You can smooth this with a warm iron, don't let yer missus know that you are using her tools tho.
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Post by pauliepilot on Jan 31, 2011 17:23:46 GMT 1
Lol she went mad when i used it for the yellow solor film :-) Yeah sheets well bits that i had laying about....foam why didnt i think of that befor i glued the first aileron together...hummm Should i scrap that one n use the other bit i cut n go down the foam road iv only got a little craft knife...the gf got big knifes in kitchen!!! But she would probley end up useing them on me...whats this stuck to my best knife!!!!.....er looks like foam to me babes :-)
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Post by pauliepilot on Feb 9, 2011 20:43:04 GMT 1
Update... After hours of crafting n sanding bits of foam n bolsa dust then solor film etc 3cmx11cm could do with bigger ones not much roll waste of time,i used my 2 servos out my wing for the ailerons...real easy mod to do :-) Thanks for the advice guys
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Post by ginginho on Feb 10, 2011 12:52:37 GMT 1
Update... After hours of crafting n sanding bits of foam n bolsa dust then solor film etc 3cmx11cm could do with bigger ones not much roll waste of time,i used my 2 servos out my wing for the ailerons...real easy mod to do :-) Thanks for the advice guys Got any pictures Paul? Surely they assist with the turning capabilities of the SC. Remember it isn't a acrobatic airframe!
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Post by pauliepilot on Feb 10, 2011 13:07:56 GMT 1
No pics yet but will put some up on photo bucket"pauliopilot" Yeah they work but not instantly does take its time to turn n got max throw!
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Post by john66 on Feb 10, 2011 14:16:47 GMT 1
Update... After hours of crafting n sanding bits of foam n bolsa dust then solor film etc 3cmx11cm could do with bigger ones not much roll waste of time,i used my 2 servos out my wing for the ailerons...real easy mod to do :-) Thanks for the advice guys Did you remove the dihedral from the wing at all? Doing so should lend the ailerons more authority. Just a thought. John
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Post by pauliepilot on Feb 10, 2011 18:37:11 GMT 1
Video of sc ailrons on photobucket,no john i have'nt is this a hard job to do? I heard somethink about warming the foam with a hair dryer while holding it flat!! How about cuting the ends off too! May as well go all out :-) I allso have a eflight 370 1080kv and arrowind esc out the wing i'd like to fit in the sc is there any home made outrunner motor mounts?
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