Post by hghost on Oct 24, 2015 7:12:44 GMT 1
here in the states they are planning to make every hobbyists register their "drones"
they are using that term for ALL model aircraft not just quads
the DOT ( Dept of Transportation, includes the FAA ) is behind it .
Not sure what the process will be or if it will be all aircraft as the AMA is trying t be involved
But here in America with our "Land of the free" you can bank on the fact it will cost us something
because Nothing here is free.....
But usually what happens here in America, seems to bleed out to everywhere else
Commercial entities want the airspace and want to force hobbyists out of it or into designated areas they choose.
Suppose to have the plan implemented by December....But who knows
www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/us-transportation-secretary-anthony-foxx-announces-unmanned-aircraft-registration
what is strange about that is the Government passed a bill in 2012 and in that Public Law it stated
that the FAA could not promulgate any rule concerning model aircraft.
That is to make a Law or decree by public announcement and yet that is what they have done ?
On February 14, 2012, the President signed into law the FAA Modernization and
Reform Act of 2012 (P.L. 112-95) (the Act), which established, in Section 336, a “special
rule for model aircraft.”
Section 336 also prohibits the FAA from promulgating “any rule or regulation
regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft”
P.L. 112-95, section 336(a)(1)-(5).
Thus, based on the language of the statute, we conclude that aircraft that meet the
statutory definition and operational requirements, as described above, would be exempt
Congress directed that the FAA may not “promulgate any rule or regulation
regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft” if the
aircraft is being operated, or being developed to be operated, pursuant to the five criteria
enumerated in the statute as described above. P.L. 112-95, section 336(a). In other words,
Congress has restricted the FAA from promulgating regulations, from the date when the
statute was enacted, specifically regarding model aircraft that meet the terms of the
statute.
However, the prohibition against future rulemaking is not a complete bar on
rulemaking that may have an effect on model aircraft. As noted above, the rulemaking
limitation applies only to rulemaking actions specifically “regarding a model aircraft or
an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft.” P.L. 112-95, section 336(a). Thus, the
rulemaking prohibition would not apply in the case of general rules that the FAA may
issue or modify that apply to all aircraft, such as rules addressing the use of airspace
SO.....to skirt the Law they basically are saying because ALL aircraft are registered, so must
the Model Aircraft .
BUT-my understanding is they have issues with the manned aircraft registry in this Country and if it
has issues and is not correct, how are they going to do a "drone" registry
in less than 2 months ?
here is an article
FAA calls for drone registry: How big a problem are 'close calls'?
www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2015/1020/FAA-calls-for-drone-registry-How-big-a-problem-are-close-calls
as you see by the article and the AMA already did the research and found most of the numbers were wrong
and only a dozen out of the suppose to be Hundreds of reports were actually drones...and many were military and
not hobbyists at all.
the Media blitz and the DOT/FAA hype is more lies than facts and it is the Commercial entities that are paying
Big Money to lobbyists to push this agenda to steal the airspace from hobbyists. Amazon being one
who is demanding the FAA/DOT push hobbyists out of the air
see that information here
www.roboticstrends.com/article/amazon_wants_dedicated_airspace_for_delivery_drones/
and there are many Commercial entities who are wanting it as well
Just some material to let you know what's happening
even the Guardian had a story on the registering announcement.
www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/17/us-drone-registry-safety-concerns
for you folks across the Pond.
they are using that term for ALL model aircraft not just quads
the DOT ( Dept of Transportation, includes the FAA ) is behind it .
Not sure what the process will be or if it will be all aircraft as the AMA is trying t be involved
But here in America with our "Land of the free" you can bank on the fact it will cost us something
because Nothing here is free.....
But usually what happens here in America, seems to bleed out to everywhere else
Commercial entities want the airspace and want to force hobbyists out of it or into designated areas they choose.
Suppose to have the plan implemented by December....But who knows
www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/us-transportation-secretary-anthony-foxx-announces-unmanned-aircraft-registration
what is strange about that is the Government passed a bill in 2012 and in that Public Law it stated
that the FAA could not promulgate any rule concerning model aircraft.
That is to make a Law or decree by public announcement and yet that is what they have done ?
On February 14, 2012, the President signed into law the FAA Modernization and
Reform Act of 2012 (P.L. 112-95) (the Act), which established, in Section 336, a “special
rule for model aircraft.”
Section 336 also prohibits the FAA from promulgating “any rule or regulation
regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft”
P.L. 112-95, section 336(a)(1)-(5).
Thus, based on the language of the statute, we conclude that aircraft that meet the
statutory definition and operational requirements, as described above, would be exempt
Congress directed that the FAA may not “promulgate any rule or regulation
regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft” if the
aircraft is being operated, or being developed to be operated, pursuant to the five criteria
enumerated in the statute as described above. P.L. 112-95, section 336(a). In other words,
Congress has restricted the FAA from promulgating regulations, from the date when the
statute was enacted, specifically regarding model aircraft that meet the terms of the
statute.
However, the prohibition against future rulemaking is not a complete bar on
rulemaking that may have an effect on model aircraft. As noted above, the rulemaking
limitation applies only to rulemaking actions specifically “regarding a model aircraft or
an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft.” P.L. 112-95, section 336(a). Thus, the
rulemaking prohibition would not apply in the case of general rules that the FAA may
issue or modify that apply to all aircraft, such as rules addressing the use of airspace
SO.....to skirt the Law they basically are saying because ALL aircraft are registered, so must
the Model Aircraft .
BUT-my understanding is they have issues with the manned aircraft registry in this Country and if it
has issues and is not correct, how are they going to do a "drone" registry
in less than 2 months ?
here is an article
FAA calls for drone registry: How big a problem are 'close calls'?
www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2015/1020/FAA-calls-for-drone-registry-How-big-a-problem-are-close-calls
as you see by the article and the AMA already did the research and found most of the numbers were wrong
and only a dozen out of the suppose to be Hundreds of reports were actually drones...and many were military and
not hobbyists at all.
the Media blitz and the DOT/FAA hype is more lies than facts and it is the Commercial entities that are paying
Big Money to lobbyists to push this agenda to steal the airspace from hobbyists. Amazon being one
who is demanding the FAA/DOT push hobbyists out of the air
see that information here
www.roboticstrends.com/article/amazon_wants_dedicated_airspace_for_delivery_drones/
and there are many Commercial entities who are wanting it as well
Just some material to let you know what's happening
even the Guardian had a story on the registering announcement.
www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/17/us-drone-registry-safety-concerns
for you folks across the Pond.