greg
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Post by greg on Nov 7, 2013 3:43:11 GMT 1
Hey all,
Just wanted to say hi. Like the subject says; I got the first crash out of the way after a very successful 3 second flight! Torn up the rudder horn so that kept me from a second flight. Then I found this site. Looking forward to a lot of reading and learning. I have a strong feeling that it was just to windy and I'm learning alone - with just a simulator. I have DX6i and I didn't adjust the settings at all. I have a new rudder ordered but I might just wait until spring before I have another go at it. I'm thinking of spending the winter learning on this site and the simulator.
Greg
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Post by hghost on Nov 7, 2013 5:36:20 GMT 1
Hey all, Just wanted to say hi. Like the subject says; I got the first crash out of the way after a very successful 3 second flight! Torn up the rudder horn so that kept me from a second flight. Then I found this site. Looking forward to a lot of reading and learning. I have a strong feeling that it was just to windy and I'm learning alone - with just a simulator. I have DX6i and I didn't adjust the settings at all. I have a new rudder ordered but I might just wait until spring before I have another go at it. I'm thinking of spending the winter learning on this site and the simulator. Greg Simulator is great to obtain orientation ( plane coming at you and away from you ) experience. However as i learned it is great to get use to that and the controls on your Transmitter, but the Simulator is allot deceiving. What i mean is it will allow you to do things you really can't do so easy with the real plane. Many like myself learned that the hard way. The Sim shows how easy and and boring flight is with the Cub and take off and landings are so gentle and easy...NONE of that happens in reality as you, by your post already found out. Flight with the Cub is exciting and a challenge especially if you are new to how it handles and how fast it really is compared to that Simulators suggestion. I have flown many planes on the Simulator with no issues and landings and take offs are no challenge ( jets are another issue) ....However when it comes to the real planes whether it be the Cub or War planes or even that great little Champ, Reality is they ALL are a challenge. I have had issues with war planes always going inverted.....Cub with Nose dipping so hard caused me to hit the ground once and even that little Champ being tossed about and even diving into a pole in a split second when one wind gust came up....even if you set the weather on a Sim a plane will still fly and land, in reality it may fly some and landings will be very hard and most flights are like your first one....short and well...you learned that already. But do not be discouraged as many here will let you know...repairs are half the fun...learning and growing in experience is how this hobby works. Do not by no means stop using the Simulator, but realize it is what it is....and in reality a Sim is a suggestion and allows certain experience , but in Actuality, the planes do not handle that docile . But use it for orientation experience and control movements...Learning those two things alone are worth the Sims cost. And WELCOME Greg to the SC site. |
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Post by coupe1942 on Nov 7, 2013 5:57:50 GMT 1
I don't know where your located, but down here, we have HobbyTown, which is a supplier for HobbyZone. As long as the lazy bums actually put stuff onto the shelf, they usually do have SC parts so I don't have to do an on-line order. If your town has a HobbyTown, then you may check them out.
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Post by pasquale91 on Nov 7, 2013 11:06:12 GMT 1
Welcome aboard! Somewhere around you is another RC enthusiast. Keep up your
search efforts and you'll find another flier or club. Like Coupe said, check
your around local hobbyshop for your parts and other folks who fly.
Have Fun!
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greg
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Post by greg on Nov 7, 2013 17:28:45 GMT 1
Thanka guys for the encouragement! Thanks for verifing that simulator and reality are different, that makes me feel better. My hobbytown in st. Louis seems to be declining in their efforts to keep stock up. Are there any companies that offer aftermarket goodies for the super cub? Id like to ge a more stout landing gear.
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Post by flydiver on Nov 7, 2013 18:50:07 GMT 1
Id like to ge a more stout landing gear. You don't want more stout LG. You are going to be crashing quite a bit for awhile. There is a lot more force in those crashes than most people realize. That force has to go somewhere. Bending the LG is one easily recoverable way to do it. Make them stiffer and it rips out the battery box or breaks the plane in half. There are LOTS of suggestions for easy reinforcement on the site. Just start looking around and reading up. |
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Post by hghost on Nov 8, 2013 4:52:53 GMT 1
Id like to ge a more stout landing gear. You don't want more stout LG. You are going to be crashing quite a bit for awhile. There is a lot more force in those crashes than most people realize. That force has to go somewhere. Bending the LG is one easily recoverable way to do it. Make them stiffer and it rips out the battery box or breaks the plane in half. There are LOTS of suggestions for easy reinforcement on the site. Just start looking around and reading up. Take Fly's advice do NOT Stiffen up the landing gear, it will cause allot more damage. Read through the forum to easily see modifications to the LG to help and not hurt in case of hard landings and believe me hard landings will happen ALL the time. Don't get discouraged, just have fun |
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Post by greg on Nov 8, 2013 15:09:37 GMT 1
Ok, wait on the landing gear, thats fine. I just saw a pic somewhere on this site where somebody had put struts, an axle and painted it white. It looked very nice but I cant seem to find the pic. Honestly, if I hadnt broken one of the plastic fairing pieces, it wouldnt even be a concern right now. I really need to replace the rudders control horn. It doesnt maintain a tight hold anymore and the rudder moves half of what the horns throw is; if that makes any sense.
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Post by flydiver on Nov 9, 2013 17:27:37 GMT 1
You need to look at the control horn attachment carefully. The tail pieces are a firm plastic over soft foam. Once the integrity of the 'skin' is damaged, like torn or creased, the strength is compromised. If not careful you could have a horn that might simply pull out during flight. I think you can imagine the consequences.
New Rudder?
At least make sure it's not going to come out and WORKS RIGHT!
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Post by greg on Nov 10, 2013 2:10:43 GMT 1
Well yeah, I have a rudder ordered, I just need to pick it up. But control horns don't come with the rudder. The flat plastic piece that fits over the shank of the horn does not stay on anymore. I guess I could super glue it on but at a couple bucks, it won't kill me to have some spares.
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Post by hghost on Nov 10, 2013 6:34:31 GMT 1
Greg , Be careful what glue you use as some glues will melt the foam. Most control horns are held by screws they have a mounting plate the screws go into on the opposite side of the Rudder/ Elevator .I also suggest you reinforce your Cub with packing tape as to limit some damage.
I also suggest you READ more posts here to see modifications and safety measures to help ensure less damage . Damage is going to happen that is a given, but allot of it can be eased with a few minor modifications and applications of material such as clear tape. Reinforcing the tail wheel, the landing gear, the battery box the wing saddle etc etc etc are all little things that can secure the Cub from greater damages, and ensure less crash damage from over enforcing it.
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greg
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Post by greg on Nov 11, 2013 2:54:38 GMT 1
So what control horns do you guys use when you need new ones? Do you stay with stock ones or are there better ones that are more resistant to damage?
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Post by hghost on Nov 11, 2013 4:34:41 GMT 1
So what control horns do you guys use when you need new ones? Do you stay with stock ones or are there better ones that are more resistant to damage? I have never needed to change a control horn. I have multiple planes, most come with an extra control horn or two. I use whatever the stock one is. Most are those that are screw mounted with a backing plate. But again I have never needed to change one so far so good. |
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Post by jklong03 on Nov 11, 2013 5:07:07 GMT 1
So what control horns do you guys use when you need new ones? Do you stay with stock ones or are there better ones that are more resistant to damage? Like everyone else has said, and common sense would dictate, if the control horn is secured on the opposite side with a backing plate and screws that go through, then that one will be more secure than one that uses a "slip plate" that operates like a zip tie. So, if you are going to replace a control horn, I would look for one that is about the same length or distance from the rudder, and is secured by screws to a back plate. DONE. Sorry if this sounds rude, but this just seems like common sense to me. |
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