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Post by iandhunt on Apr 30, 2013 3:56:15 GMT 1
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Post by Crazy Horse on Apr 30, 2013 8:45:50 GMT 1
I'm just glad he doesn't fly me to my holiday destination. ;D
That is the most amazing flying I have ever seen, or probably ever will see.
It would take Einstein to explain the physics on this one and unfortunately he is no longer with us.
Thanks for the post Ian.
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Vulpes
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Post by Vulpes on Apr 30, 2013 15:02:04 GMT 1
Reminds me of Sean Tucker and some of the amazing things he does in his Challenger III.
Like the video iandhunt posted, there are several times when his flying seems to defy physics. Actually, I'm relatively certain he wakes up, drinks a big cup of anti-physics, and then straps on his plane. Enjoy!
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Post by Crazy Horse on Apr 30, 2013 18:16:38 GMT 1
Lady CH has watched the www.flixxy.com/amazing-17-year-old-rc-pilot.htmHer reaction? "Why can't you fly like that?" The second one, Sean Tucker. "That's cheating, he has two wings!" I am building her a Cub to fly for herself as we speak.  |
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Post by renard80 on Apr 30, 2013 23:04:29 GMT 1
Pah!! I can't abide a show-off, even if he is only 17.(Apologies for taking so long to comment - I had to get my chin back off the ground and close my awe-stricken mouth . . .  ) Thanks for those great links, ian and Vulpes.
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Post by Dillzio on May 1, 2013 2:50:27 GMT 1
wow, that was some unreal flying!
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Post by Dillzio on May 2, 2013 0:57:45 GMT 1
Hey, I've been looking at that video again, and judging by how fast that thing is rolling it looks like the corrections required to keep it straight and level, particularly at low altitude and while executing a turn, would have to be faster than humanly possible.
Looks to me like he had some help from gyros.
Anyone else agree?
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Post by Crazy Horse on May 2, 2013 8:46:55 GMT 1
Dillzio,
I have watched this quite a few times now and I have to agree with you. There must be a a lot more electronics and technology inside that aircraft than the usual. Not wishing to take any credit away from the young man, but that flying beggars belief.
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Post by renard80 on May 2, 2013 18:10:48 GMT 1
Re. the gyro possibility: I know nothing, but that question is posed on the YouTube version of this video. The reply from the lad (or perhaps his father) is: "Sorry, no gyro. just talent." www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzowQtqOM_I |
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Post by Crazy Horse on May 2, 2013 20:41:35 GMT 1
Well, He, (his Dad) would say that wouldn't he? Remind you of anyone gentlemen? If that is just talent, then my unreserved respect. That is just too good to be true talent. IMHO of course. But then I have trouble landing!  |
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Post by toff on May 2, 2013 23:46:37 GMT 1
Not that I wish to disrespect any of the incredible flying I've just watched, I'd like to say that I don't think there are any gyros onboard. There is, however a 17 year old at the controls.
A) He can take G-forces like it's pure sugar - another rush, oooo, yet another rush!
B) Bet he's been learning this since he was born...17 years of training beats adults hands down..
C)At that age, He's showing off for sex - bet his GF is watching - 10 minutes of insane death defying stunts = 2 days of total sex.
D) I want to see him in 20 years time - bet he looks 60, with 5 kids, and sells mortgages, no longer flies as he might die, and then the insurance wont pay out.......
Not so much a prodigy, as he doesn't yet know how the world works.......
" There are OLD pilots, and BOLD pilots, but never both.....'
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Post by renard80 on May 3, 2013 0:00:47 GMT 1
What a cynical old bugger you are, Chris!
Have you been on the jungle juice again? (I have!) ;D
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Post by Dillzio on May 3, 2013 4:03:58 GMT 1
I don't mean to detract from his flying, god knows if I tried to fly like that, even in a plane with gyros, i'd crash it for sure. But, he is only human, and humans have finite reaction times. As an Occupational Therapist, it's my professional opinion that the flying I see in that video isn't humanly possible, for two reasons. 1) straight out reaction times, even the most highly trained professionals are restricted to 1/10 of a second, which I don't think is fast enough to make all the minute corrections necessary to do something like turn while doing fast aileron rolls and 2) due to limitations in our visual perception and how quickly we can process that information, I don't think reacting within 1/10 of a second is even possible under those circumstances. It's not a matter of seeing a stimulus like a red brake light then slamming on the brakes- it's a matter of seeing what the plane's doing, interpreting what's seen to work out the plane's orientation and movement and predicting what it's about to do next, then working out the correct inputs needed on the controls to get the plane to do what's wanted then sending the message from our brains to our thumbs. Sure, it would become reflex over time, particularly with someone learning from a young age, but there is too much cognition involved for these responses to be quick enough to allow for the sort of flying we see there, nerve impulses can only travel so quickly.
It looks to me like that plane is rolling at a rate of two or more rotations per second, and with each rotation it requires four separate inputs to make the plane change direction (eg to turn left you'd want left rudder when plane is upright, up elevator when it's on it's left side, right rudder when plane is upside down and down elevator when plane is on it's right side... in addition to whatever inputs are needed to keep the plane tracking straight). That's eight coordinated and perfectly timed inputs in a second- surely a super human fete.
I've heard that there are new flight stabilization systems out that are based on accelerometers rather than gyros - If the pilot's dad said the plane didn't have gyros, i wonder if he could have been omitting that the plane actually had something more high tech involved, like accelerometers and a digital compass.
Again, I'm not suggesting that he's not a very skillful pilot, but I'd be very surprised if he didn't have help from an electronic device that could react faster than humanly possible.
Toff, you are entirely correct that the combination between learning from a young age, the rush of adrenaline and the primitive pubescent urges to impress the opposite gender as a means of procuring hot passionate sex are all factors that would significantly improve the pilot's performance, but I'm still a bit dubious that he didn't have a little extra help from technology.
Hey, wait a minute, are we sure that girls are sexually attracted to guys that are really good a flying remote controlled planes? On second thoughts I have my doubts.
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