Harder to fly?

[NorCalAirman]

Is more skill required to fly once you've done an aileron mod? I'm not talking fancy stuff, just plain ole level flight.

[duck9191]

i find it much easier, especially if its windy out its much easier to correct. only thing is if you flatten out the wing you will lose the dehiderial and the plane wont self right, which means you will have to straighten out the plane when you come out of a turn, but no big deal.

[NorCalAirman]

I was kind of thinking it would make some things easier, like landing in wind. If you're being tossed to the side, there's no way to level off without ailerons. The rudder will just turn you, which is no good. I don't think I will flatten out the dihedral at first, but even adding ailerons will have to wait a bit. I just want to know what I'm in for should I start cutting.

[duck9191]

you might want to flatten out the wing a bit or the alirons will be less effective, just leave a bit in the wing so it will help level it out.

[flydiver]

What you are in for is a complete electrical swap unless you are willing to transfer the rudder t the aileron. You understand that?

fly

[NorCalAirman]

Jun 20, 2008 21:37:31 GMT 1 flydiver said:

What you are in for is a complete electrical swap unless you are willing to transfer the rudder t the aileron. You understand that?

fly

I understand that. I've been eyeing the Optic 6 and I've been shopping around for the requisite electronics. I considered using stock parts and sacrificing the rudder, but I'm gonna need the radio when I move on to kits and such anyway, so might as well use it with the cub and do a full upgrade.

[mikejbb]

I didn't straighten out the wing, but I did make the ailerons a bit bigger than some. 1.75"x12". If I do it again, I'll make them bigger, probably 2.25" x 15". I can still do rolls, but no knife. I'd need a bigger tail for that. I did notice that when I cut the throttle, using the ailerons made her less of a glider. So I do a lot of glidding with the tail only.

I love the ailerons, she's MUCH easier to fly. And now I'll fly in higher winds. I've flown in 20mph constant with higher gusts, but then you need the power to fight back. With ailerons, you have the control you need.

I don't have a mixable tx, so I do the mixing manually in turns. Sometimes I keep her flat in a turn just for fun (rudder and opposite aileron).

I found when I do rolls, I loose less altitude if I include same rudder.

Mike

[joseywales]

I maidened my Cub with ailerons this afternoon. I flattened the wing by flipping it upside down and laying it across a large open box. I placed some books in the middle of the wing so it bent actually beyond the point of being flat. I let it sit for a day then applied an almost wing long length of Heavy Duty 3M strapping tape (like clear packing tape but reinforced with nylon strips) to the bottom of the wing while most the weight was on it. It flattened it out perfectly. And remains flat over a week later.

I was a bit frazzled to fly it flat winged and with ailerons but it flew perfectly. It still glides well but not too much as it did stock. And having to right the plane after turns etc is no problem even after being "spoiled" by dehydral flying for the last 3 months. There's an overall sense of better control. If you can fly the cub rudder only, then flat wing with ailerons should be an easy transition. Just get it way high before you start experimenting. It's well worth the work of adding the ailerons. I did a bit of a hack job cutting mine and it still flys perfectly.

[cvrcmember]

Sounds Cool!

[leadchucker]

The SC is much easier to fly and much more manoeuvrable with ailerons,especially in the wind and having to do crosswind landings. It does seems to have a considerable amount of adverse yaw with the dihedral still in the wing though,but a blip on the rudder will bring it around in a co-ordinated turn nicely. I went with the 1.75" x 12" size and the dihedral will be gone upon arrival of some 1mm x 4mm CF strips.