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Post by renard80 on May 4, 2013 23:24:05 GMT 1
Although I have used Gorilla glue for other repairs, I have never used it to mend model aircraft (hot glue or epoxy were always OK). I am now persuaded that it might be best for major repair work following my recent bad crash. Having bought some today, I belatedly realised that it is not white but the usual brown sort, which will leave nasty stains on the plane. Now comes the problem. Searching online, the only white Gorilla I can find is a very small amount in what they call a Precision Glue Pen. See here: www.gorillagluedirect.com/super-glue/gorilla-glue-precision-glue-pen-18-9ml.htmlThis 'pen' appears to be intended for small, detailed jobs, not major repairs. Please can anyone tell me if it really is the only WHITE Gorilla glue available? Is this what other members use for large repairs? |
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Post by flydiver on May 4, 2013 23:40:59 GMT 1
Do you Brits have Sumo glue (by Loctite)?
They are both polyurethane glues. Sumo started out white before Gorilla got around to it.
It's better not to get a big bottle, though that one is pretty small. Moisture makes it 'kick' and after awhile enough moisture gets in the airspace of larger bottle to ruin it. I have actually transferred some to large syringes to keep it from doing that. The opening forms a 'scab' but it's fine once that is picked off.
Play with it a little before you commit to a glue job. It foams up....a LOT. If you trowel it on it expands and gets everywhere. You only need a little. You can speed up the process with a tiny spritz from an atomizer on the surfaces to be glued.
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Post by Dillzio on May 5, 2013 3:41:24 GMT 1
I've just found a local supplier of gorilla glues so i've brought both the brown and the white.
I don't think white is the one you really want to use on planes. The beauty of the brown one is when it's activated by a little water it foams up, so it can fill gaps and the glue will be ultralightweight because it's full of air bubbles. While the white glue will work quite well on foam (from what I've read anyway), it doesn't have the advantage of foaming so it won't be lightweight.
For large repairs, where you need to fill gaps or use a lot of glue, I think it's best to use the brown one because of it's foaming properties. If you are using it to fill gaps, put some tape over the surface of the gap while you're waiting for it to foam up to prevent it from expanding too much- saves you from having to sand off the excess later.
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Post by hghost on May 5, 2013 4:01:40 GMT 1
I found some foam glue called Hold the Foam. They even make it in a Hot glue stick so you can use it in a glue gun. Seems to work very well. It holds foam and wood to foam really strong it appears .In fact it looks exactly like the glue they used in this Cub. They have glued the servo's and stuff and it appears to look identical. It is white and it is thick, looks something like the old Elmer's glue. Hope it holds up. I asked the local hobby shop for some foam safe glue they gave me some CA glue..I did not look at it, just bought it.First warning states do Not use it on foam.....go figure. We do not have a good hobby shop that sells products like that, I have to order online all the time. I think I need to get some Epoxy....that seems to always be a Great glue. Guess I will soon see how well it works.
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Post by flydiver on May 5, 2013 4:32:01 GMT 1
. I don't think white is the one you really want to use on planes. The beauty of the brown one is when it's activated by a little water it foams up, so it can fill gaps and the glue will be ultralightweight because it's full of air bubbles. While the white glue will work quite well on foam (from what I've read anyway), it doesn't have the advantage of foaming so it won't be lightweight. . Rubbish, it foams up just fine. |
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Post by kenninny on May 5, 2013 5:53:14 GMT 1
I use to use epoxy for foam repairs because it strong, and sets fast, didn't like the fact that it yellowed
but now I use foam tac its strong and flexable, and fast I tore part of an aileron at the hinge, used foam tac on it, and it moves with no problem
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Post by Dillzio on May 5, 2013 7:32:50 GMT 1
. I don't think white is the one you really want to use on planes. The beauty of the brown one is when it's activated by a little water it foams up, so it can fill gaps and the glue will be ultralightweight because it's full of air bubbles. While the white glue will work quite well on foam (from what I've read anyway), it doesn't have the advantage of foaming so it won't be lightweight. . Rubbish, it foams up just fine. Nice to hear from you too fly!  Well I haven't used the white one yet, but it says on the bottle "non foaming" so naturally I assumed it doesn't foam up. So how do you get the white one to foam? With water as well? |
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Post by renard80 on May 5, 2013 12:27:35 GMT 1
Thanks for the interesting replies. Fly - I can't find Sumo glue on this side of the Big Pond. Dill - As stated above, I am reluctant to use the brown Gorilla as I don't want unsightly stains all around the repairs. (If you've seen my repair job, you will see how big it is: supercubclub.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=crash&action=display&thread=5049 As for the other welcome suggestions, both Hold the Foam and Foam-Tac are widely recommended elsewhere, too. I can't find Foam-Tac over here, but Hold the Foam does appear available, so as it seems that Gorilla white IS only available in those small tubes, I might try Hold the Foam. (Thanks, hghost.) |
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Post by Dillzio on May 5, 2013 13:43:15 GMT 1
Is this what you guys are on about when you say white gorilla glue?  |
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Post by Dillzio on May 5, 2013 14:21:54 GMT 1
Yeah, I saw your repair thread, outch!
If I was going to fix that one, I'd use CA glue, combination of thick and medium with accelerator for a strong lightweight repair. Using tape to hold things as you glue them together is very helpful but I'm sure you know that already. CA glue has the advantage of setting clear so your cub's aesthetics will remain in tact. Epoxy probably works really well as well, but it ends up being heavier, and since it has a brown tinge you have to wipe away any excess that squeezes out of the joints or it doesn't look good.
I haven't had one of my cubs snap like that since I started using profilm or tape to reinforce them- the fuse becomes sooo much stronger with some profilm or tape wrapped around it.
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Post by flydiver on May 5, 2013 16:18:06 GMT 1
Come on Dill, you know I'm not going to let someone bandy around false claims...especially when they've never even used the product.  White GG is my glue of choice, I use it a lot. I HATE CA, miserable product. I'd say it foams up somewhat less, but it certainly foams. The more water you add > the more the foam. I'm generally trying to minimize the foaming. It's a wonderful product on foam since it expands into the bubbles and cracks. Again I emphasize, use sparingly or you have the stuff oozing out everywhere. GG Wood glue - Nope, plain old 'regular' wood glue, not polyurethane type. Interesting that it's hard to get over the pond. I supposed it is a relatively new product compared to glues that have been around for years. |
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Post by renard80 on May 5, 2013 18:32:14 GMT 1
Dill - thanks for your latest contribution, mate. White GG is my glue of choice, I use it a lot. . . . . It's a wonderful product on foam since it expands into the bubbles and cracks . . . . . Interesting that it's hard to get over the pond. I supposed it is a relatively new product compared to glues that have been around for years. Fly - they do sell the white GG over here, but apparently only in the 'Precision Pen' mentioned in my original post. So, as a white GG advocate, please can you say if that 'pen' is what you use, or is a larger size sold over there? As I said, I wonder whether the 'pen' will be adequate for large repairs such as mine. |
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Post by Dillzio on May 6, 2013 3:49:58 GMT 1
Ah so this is what you mean when you say Gorilla white?  Just a little ambiguous, particularly since the wood glue actually is white and other other one only turns white after it dries! For those interested, apparently gorilla wood glue works well with foam too, i found a thread discussing it here: forum.rc-airplane-world.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1639Renard, have you tried looking up gorilla glue stockists in your area? uk.gorillaglue.com/eng/stockists/distributors/10/A quick googling tells me Southampton is in the Hampshire area. This is a list of stockists in Hampshire: Buck & Hickman Unit 3, City Industrial Park Southern Road Hampshire SOUTHAMPTON SO15 1HG C Brewer & Sons 13-15 Market Place Hampshire Ringwood BH24 1AN Phone: 01425 471877 fax: 01425 461301 8 Mallard Buildings Station Road Hampshire New Milton BH25 6HY Phone: 01425 618848 fax: 01425 628260 Unit 1 Northtown Trading Estate North Lane Hampshire Aldershot GU12 4UB Phone: 01252 328316 fax: 01252 317609 6 Chapel Street Hampshire Petersfield GU32 3DP Phone: 01730 264400 fax: 01730 264400 1 Fielder Drive Newgate Lane Industrial Estate Hampshire Fareham PO14 1JE Phone: 01329 233155 fax: 1329233175 Unit 7i thingyinson Road The Pompey Centre Hampshire Portsmouth PO4 8ER Phone: 023 9282 1611 fax: 0239285 1424 84-92 Highland Road Hampshire Southsea PO4 9NF Phone: 023 9229 4499 fax: 023 9275 3232 4 The Paddock Hambridge Road Hampshire Newbury RG14 5TQ Phone: 01635 46136 fax: 01635 529246 138 Thornycroft Ind Estate Worting Road Hampshire Basingstoke RG21 8BJ Phone: 01256 467373 fax: 01256 467375 21-25 Paynes Road Shirley Hampshire Southampton SO15 3DL Phone: 023 8063 4779 fax: 023 8022 3120 30 Portsmouth Road Woolston Hampshire Southampton SO19 9AB Phone: 023 8044 8816 fax: 023 8043 7992 3 Andover Road Retail Park Andover Road Hampshire Winchester SO23 7RY Phone: 01962 865224 fax: 01962 841974 Brickfield Lane Chandlers Ford Eastleigh Hampshire Southampton SO53 4DP Phone: 023 8026 7242 fax: 023 8026 9006 2 The Gate Centre Hunting Gate East Portway Hampshire Andover SP10 3SJ Phone: 01264 333637 fax: 01264 333636 C. Brewer & Sons Albany House Waterworks Road Farlington Hampshire Portsmouth PO6 1RD Phone: +441323411080 City Electrical Factors Winchester Unit 6, Winchester Trade Park Easton Lane Hampshire Winchester SO23 7FA Hobbycraft Unit 7 Solent Retail Park 1 Selbourne Road Hampshire Havant PO9 1ND Phone: 01202 596103 Gaters Hill Mansbridge Road West End Hampshire Southampton SO18 3HW Phone: 01202 596103 Homebase Collingwood Retail Park Newgate Lane Hampshire Fareham PO14 1AN Phone: 01329 231 439 fax: 01329 230 413 Ocean Park Burrfields Road Hampshire Portsmouth PO3 5NP Phone: 023 9267 7551 fax: 023 9265 0641 Fitzherbert Road Farlington Hampshire Portsmouth PO6 1RR Phone: 023 9220 0196 fax: 023 9220 0185 Havant Retail Park Portsdown Hill Road Hampshire Havant PO9 3NA Phone: 02392 440 598 fax: 023 9248 3093 Winchester Road Hampshire Basingstoke RG22 6HN Phone: 01256 814 629 fax: 01256 818 319 Auckland Road off Millbrook Road Hampshire Southampton SO15 0SD Phone: 023 8051 0025 fax: 023 8051 0027 Easton Lane Winnall Hampshire Winchester SO23 7UD Phone: 01962 863 785 fax: 01962 854 232 Unit 1 Hedge End Retail Park Tollbar Way Hedge End Hampshire Southampton SO30 2UH Phone: 01489 789 241 fax: 01489 789 244 Chestnut Aveenu Chandlers Ford Eastleigh Hampshire Southampton SO53 3YB Phone: 023 8062 7418 fax: 023 8065 3468 Enham Arch Retail Park Newbury Road Hampshire Andover SP10 4DU Phone: 01264 355 089 fax: 01264 356 109 Maccess Unit 4 Flanders Ind Park Hedge End Hampshire Southampton Robert Dyas Limited 78-80 West Street, Hampshire Fareham PO16 OJN 26-27 The Hart Centre Hampshire Fleet GU51 3LA 2 Old Basing Mall, Hampshire Basingstoke RG21 7AW 3 Upper Brook Street, Hampshire Winchester SO23 8AR Unit 11, Dukes Walk, Hampshire Waterlooville PO7 7HS 10/11 The Meridian Shopping Centre, Hampshire Havant PO9 1UW 4-5 The Swan Centre Hampshire Eastleigh SO50 5SG 10/11 Rams Walk, Hampshire Petersfield GU32 3JA 25-27 Palmerston Road Hampshire Southsea PO5 3QQ Screwfix Trade Counter Unit 14, Admiral Park Williams Road Hampshire Portsmouth PO3 5NJ 140 Thorney Croft Industrial Estate Worting Road Hampshire Basingstoke RG21 8BJ 593 Millbrook Road West Millbrook Hampshire Southampton SO15 0LB Unit G, Wykeham Industrial Estate Moorside Road Winnall Hampshire Winchester SO23 7RX Units A & B Phase B2 Hamilton Business Park Botley Road Hampshire Southampton SO30 2JR Tesco Stores Brading Road Hampshire Ryde PO33 1QS Clement Atlee Way Hampshire Portsmouth PO6 4SR Phone: 0845 6779561 Solent Road Hampshire Havant PO9 1TR Sears Retail Park West Quay Retail Park Hampshire Southampton SO15 1BA Easton Lane Hampshire Winchester SO23 7RS Phone: 0845 6779723 Hamble Lane Burlesdon Hampshire Southampton SO31 8GN Phone: 0845 6779087 The Range 1 Gunners Way Brockhurst Ind Estate Hampshire Gosport PO12 4DS Phone: Tel: 02392 525000 fax: Fax: 02392 525005 230-234 Winchester Road Shirley Hampshire Southampton SO16 6TL Phone: Tel: 02380 775577 fax: Fax: 02380 775522 Antelope Park Bursledon Road Hampshire Southampton SO19 8NE Phone: Tel: 02380 439475 fax: Fax: 02380 422413 Northern Business Park Northern Avenue Hampshire Andover SP10 4DU Phone: Tel:01264 369127 fax: Fax: 01264 355176 Travis Perkins 9 Bedford Road Hampshire Petersfield GU32 3LW Surely with all these stockists you can find someone that stocks the product you need. Consider yourself lucky there are so many to choose from- here in sleepy little Adelaide there is only one listed on their website Oh, and for those interested, I've just made a thread on RCG asking people about their experience with using different gorilla glues on foam, should be interesting to follow it up in a few days  www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1886722#post24916477 |
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Post by renard80 on May 6, 2013 15:39:03 GMT 1
Thanks for that list, Dill.
I had visited Gorilla's website but hadn't noticed their Stockists button. Good lateral thinking on your part!
Seems I have some phone calls to make . . .
(I still cannot find online in UK that 2oz bottle shown in your post - only the little Precision Pen.)
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Post by flydiver on May 6, 2013 16:19:07 GMT 1
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