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Post by jscibello on Jun 20, 2007 22:24:32 GMT 1
Mr. Mugen - I noticed that you have all three, can you compare them. I have a Supercub that I've had for a couple months. Pretty good at it. I saw the Stryker F27-C and wow! Thought I had to have one but thought it might be too much - then looked at the Parkzone Spitfire.
Do you think I could skip the Spitfire and go right to the Stryker C or do I go with the Spirfire first. I really don't want to go with the Stryker B then go to the C - too similar a plane
Thanks, John
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Post by mrmugen on Jun 20, 2007 22:58:07 GMT 1
Believe it our not the stryker C is the easiest plane to fly. It can be flown slow or super fast. I like it much better than the spit. It can be crashed over and over and the spit can be crashed once and once only. It is very brittle compared to the F-27C or B. I would not go with the B for obvious reasons. I do like the spitfire but not for a beginner. It has the tendency to roll when you don't want to roll esp. in some wind. The stryker can take a lot of wind and be virtually unaffected. Will add more later. Kevin
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Post by jscibello on Jun 21, 2007 3:53:41 GMT 1
Wow - Not what I expected. But that is why I asked. Please add more comments. Tell me about the Stryker flying slow because at first I'll be careful.
Thank You, John
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Post by mrmugen on Jun 21, 2007 5:06:01 GMT 1
Well I can't say slow I guess because people think of the slo-v when I do I think. It can stay up at about 10-15mph and hit around 75 with a good lipo. It is harder to control going slower. It is a breeze to control IMO while going 1/2 stick and up. I really like this plane. I have went nose in at nearly 80mph and the fuse was destroyed......20 bucks fixed that in a jiffy (new fuse). I have crashed less hard and had nothing to do to it. I do not glue in my vertical stabs so when landing they can slip off instead of catching on whatever is in the way and tearing the back of the plane off. I think if you have the feel for the cub and have some simulator time the C will be a breeze. You bank all your turns and use elev. to pull through them. This plane draws a crowd in a one horse town.
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Post by flydiver on Jul 5, 2007 3:41:39 GMT 1
I've got the StykerB (NiMh, brushed). It's considerably slower than the 'C' (my buddy has one). I think maybe the 'C' can actually fly slower (less weight) than the B but it can also fly a LOT faster. I was able to handle the B all right from the beginning BUT, it is faster, orientation is WAY harder, and maneuver room is significantly larger. This translates into some serious ground WHUMPS!! when you lose it. I've flown my SC for quite awhile and have little damage to it. My Stryker has a nose that looks like it did a few rounds in a major fight and the motor mount and fuse area have been broken multiple times. It still flies fine after some gluing and taping and I'm finally considering upgrading to BL and lipo. It really is a great plane and I like it a lot. If you get one fly it HIGH and VERY conservatively for awhile until you get your Stryker "thumbs". I didn't really figure that out until about 4 major whumps.
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Post by ace1726 on Jul 9, 2007 3:23:56 GMT 1
I had a chance to fly a Stryker "C" today. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!! I need to get a grin-e-ctomy!!!! (yes, I just made that word up) One of the guys I fly with called me over and said he's seen how I fly my cub and he knew I could fly the Stryker no problem. I went verticle, rolls, and some very nice banks... Excellent plane. However, I am in the process of doing the aileron mod and b/l conversion in my Cub. I will wait till I get good with that and probably get the Stryker next...
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Post by jscibello on Aug 17, 2007 20:34:07 GMT 1
Well, I did it. I bought the Stryker F27-C. This is only my second plane.
First flight was about 3 seconds. They say throw it and then add power when it is clear of your hand. I wasn't too quick and it landed itself - pretty gracefully I might add. Then I used power and took off - wow. No problems - I just throttled back to about 1/2 throttle and cruised around. Very stable.
Second day - pretty much the same. Very impressed with the plane. Way easier to fly than I thought it would be. But I'm not ripping up the sky with it - I don't have a lot of room, so my rips are vertical along with some rolls.
And then there is today. Got a little braver. Got higher and farther away. Lost orientation several times. Couldn't tell if it was going away or coming toward me. Pulled it out of a dive about 2' above the ground. Guy next to me said, "Nice save". It was luck. Got the plane up higher and pretty far away and lost it to a tree. Made a pretty good smacking sound when it hit. We found it in a tree about 30' up. Went home and got a ladder and a pole and got it back. Tiny little dent on the leading edge of the wing - THAT'S IT !, oh and the prop is now green from running the motor while it was in the tree so we could find it. I looked it over, everything else was fine so I flew it for another 5 or 6 minutes till the battery died.
As long as I concentrate on the plane and don't let it get too far away it is an awsome, tough plane. Mr. Mugen, you were right to recommend this plane. Thank You !
John
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Post by mrmugen on Aug 17, 2007 23:15:51 GMT 1
Hey it's good to hear you like it. It is quite a simple plane to fly compared to the rest of them. Also glad to hear that you got it back. I never had that happen to me YET..lol. I get too brave daily and get very lucky I figure. One day you will try a high speed pass inverted about 4 feet off the ground....what a rush! Take care, Kevin
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Post by flydiver on Aug 18, 2007 4:53:34 GMT 1
Like I said, orientation is a LOT harder. Needs a bit more room to maneuver than the Cub. My first 4-5 flights were actually OK. Then I got a little braver, brought it down a bit closer and tried some "fancier" stuff----------Whump!. After about 4 sessions of that happening I got conservative again, fly high and take it easy. I'm now building on those skills and am a lot more confident. I continue to bust the nose every half dozen flights (usually a bad launch or landing) but haven't had any crashes in awhile, though I've had a few 2-3 foot from the ground panic saves!
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Post by jscibello on Aug 26, 2007 23:45:12 GMT 1
Ahh, maybe I just can't fly :-) Took the Stryker out again. Several laps around the field no prob lems then I went to do some landings. On my turn to final I'm high and I realize it will float forever so I go around. Next time I'm lower and as the plane turns towards me I steepen the turn instead of leveling and pulling back on the elevator and belly flop in. OK - no damage, let's try again. Couple more laps and same thing. Let's try again - as I'm coming in I realize I'm losing orientation so I gain some altitude to get it back but I just lose it higher.
One street over I found it in a tree. 2 pieces of pvc - 20' up and I get it back. Guess I need some more practice on the simulator.
Now I realize how great my Super Cub is. Makes me feel better than I am, and puts that smile back on my face.
Thanks for listening, John
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Post by mrmugen on Aug 27, 2007 3:26:51 GMT 1
Hey John, It does take some getting used to to land it. It comes in pretty hot. I dead stick it once I make my final turn (about 300-500 feet away). Then I just keep it straight and narrow. Let the plane do the rest. It will slow down but not in a hurry. Leave plenty of room for a final approach. If nessessary try to stall the plane a little when you make your final turn.....helps with the speed issue. Kevin
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Post by jscibello on Aug 27, 2007 21:27:05 GMT 1
Hi Kevin,
Actually I have the landing down pretty well once it is on final. I've been trying to come in lower and slower so that I can land without such an extended final. What's happening is that as the plane is making the turn to final as it starts coming toward me on the final turn I'm treating it like the Cub and banking a little more to make the turn but that doesn't work with the Stryker - and then I pull back on the elevator before shallowing the bank and it either goes in or gets real interesting trying to save it.
It is one tough plane though !
Thanks, John
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Post by mrmugen on Aug 28, 2007 1:03:19 GMT 1
Hey you may want to check you CG from time to time when crashing a bunch. Glue and cf add weight and something about crashing makes the plane fly differently everytime......not sure what..lol. Glad you like it.
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Post by jscibello on Aug 28, 2007 4:27:11 GMT 1
Like you said this is one tough plane. I haven't used any glue on it. Just some packing tape on the bottom and the leading edges. I also have a little bottle of black water based paint from the craft store to make the nose black again :-)
John
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