dx6i rudder to elevator mix possible?

[prndl]

Let me start by saying I'm a real noob. I few my SC for the first time today (went through 2 batteries) and I'm happy to say it came home in one piece. I thought I could make turns a little easier if I programmed a rudder to an up elevator mix until I'm more comfortable with it.

I programmed my dx6i with a rudder to elevator mix but it doesn't work. What I did was to go to Mix 2, select
Rud + Elev ACT

Rate D + 60% Rate U 0% (I'm thinking "D down" means up elevator)

SW Mix

I played with these rates but the elevator does not move with the rudder when the mix switch was turned on.

The plane is totally stock with the only mod was to add larger wheels for grass landings and take-offs.

Any help is much appreciated.

BTW, I did setup a aileron to rudder mix on my De Havilland Beaver and that works fine. I haven't flown this plane yet....starting out with the SC first.

Jerry

[flydiver]

Can you...probably. I don't have a DX6i so I can't check.
Should you? ....no.
You'll start out with a crutch modification that no one that I know uses, or recommends.
You'll be laying down muscle memory at the very beginning that you'll regret having done in a very short time.
Controlling elevator in a coordinated turn is one of the basic moves in RC.
Down the road you'll be learning to coordinate the rudder with ailerons with the elevator when you move up to 4-ch.

[prndl]

I though you might respond in that way flydiver. I've been lurking on this board for a while picking up great information along the way and I have to say you always give well thought out balanced answers soooo I'll keep practicing left or right thumb with a little down thumb.

Thanks for the good advice!!

Jerry

[flydiver]

FWIW the next answer is, 'should you mix rudder with aileron, once you go to 4-ch'?
That's entirely up to you. You'll get mixed answers. Some say sure, others say never you should learn to use the rudder stick independently.

I'm in favor of doing whatever you find most useful. If you always do the mixing your rudder control will stay 'stupid' unless you make a determined effort to train it. It takes awhile and feels very awkward at first.

In addition, some planes simply don't respond well to mixing. There is no 'magic'. I have some 4-ch 3D planes that spin flat around the nose with rudder control. I've got a sport plane that turns the wrong way and drops the wing horribly with rudder only control for turning. There is no single answer. It is amazing how much different a plane responds when you flatten the wing.

We occasionally get someone desperate to go to ailerons but also scared to do so. So they figure they can flatten the wing, put in ailerons, but continue to use the rudder on the right to start. That is a recipe for disaster as the plane will not respond how they expect at all.

[gspan]

I purchased a DX6i recently. I mixed ailerons with rudder and ailerons with elevator and i love it. Lots more control and i can fly a whole lot faster with it. Of course this is a modified supercub. I did flatten the wing but it still wants to go straight up with throttle. I've been flying for just a little over a year. Started with a stock Cub and then built one with mods.


Love that Vette in your pic.

Mixing is controlled with a switch on the DX6i so you can turn it on or off.

[flydiver]

I suggest folks read this before they do mixing. If the goal is to 'roar around', fine, but all you are learning to do is roar around. You are not learning fine stick control. That is a personal choice.
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1915016
It is recommended that you put it on a switch so you have the option. Learning to do that is also a good experience.

One mix I DO frequently is to mix throttle to elevator. As throttle is increased down elevator is added...just a pinch. Too much makes it dive. It keeps the plane from climbing like crazy.
I don't know how to do this on a DX6i so you are on your own.

[toff]

On the Dx6i, using a mix is not as quite straightforward as it seems. I do know how to do what you wish....However, I am unwilling to tell you, for the sake of your plane/ money/time....I can sort of understand where you are coming from...do a mix, I can turn by just using left or right stick... ( ps: do you program computers? Write code/ HTML? I only ask, as programmers use as many shortcuts as possible ( I know a few.... )
Whilst I applaud your exploration of what is possible, I deplore your thinking towards 'easy flying'.
The 'cub is easy enough to fly as is, and by using mixing ( as fly said), not only will you degrade your fine stick control, you will also get stuck in a pattern of 'easy fixes', which, as you progress, will end up in more crashes, and, eventually, enough will be enough....
Imagine driving a car, and going left is much easier than going right...so you go left, left, left, etc...and then you hit a right turn... you go left, then crash....
Same thing, pretty much.
One thing I can say... do the training, learn the lesson, and that lesson is LEARNED. Throttle, rudder, ailerons, elevator, height, yaw, pitch, attitude... once learned, never forgotten. Do it the 'right' way, first time. Skill for life!

[gspan]

Jun 22, 2013 16:27:26 GMT 1 flydiver said:

One mix I DO frequently is to mix throttle to elevator. As throttle is increased down elevator is added...just a pinch. Too much makes it dive. It keeps the plane from climbing like crazy.
I don't know how to do this on a DX6i so you are on your own.

This is something i want to explore. Thanks Fly, it didn't even occur to me to do that.

I understand about personal preference. These modified cubs will haul the mail and i like those wide sweeping turns without becomming all thumbs. However my firewall pulled away from the fuse but what a blast it was.

[Crazy Horse]

Toff,

I could not agree more. It is like someone learning to drive a car that is an automatic, easy peasy. Put them in a car with a proper gearstick and then they have to really think about what is happening, whole new ball game.

"Do it the 'right' way, first time. Skill for life!" Absolutely spot on.

[SussexFlyer]

I'm with flydiver on this one, better by far to get used to 'manual' mixing! Just because a computer radio makes something available doesn't mean it is always a good thing! Jerry, after just a very short time you will find yourself 'automatically' giving a tad of up elevator in the turns to keep the nose up. And, later, when you graduate to flying 4-function (i.e. with ailerons) some people will no doubt recommend you mix rudder and ailerons 'for smoother, co-ordinated, balanced turns'. But - and I appreciate this is some way in the future - when you fly inverted your ailerons behave as per normal but your rudder is reversed (think about it). If you have them mixed there is an obvious problem! Also, again in the future, should you wish to sideslip (where you apply OPPOSITE rudder to the ailerons) or fly a nice scale banked pass (often known as a 'Farnborough Pass' as it was often used to display aircraft at the UK Farnborough Air Shows), i.e. with the model in a bank to display the upper surfaces - but WITHOUT turning, you will find yourself in difficulty.