tdk326
Flying officer
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Post by tdk326 on Oct 21, 2011 4:37:43 GMT 1
I am upgrading the Motor, ESC, and Battery on the Super Club LP. So far I have found the motor mount on www.customrcparts.comFor the motor & ESC: Turnigy Park480 Brushless Outrunner 1020kv & Turnigy Plush 40amp Speed Controller from: www.hobbyking.comBeen researching on all different types of upgrades and wanted people’s input on the items I have listed or if you have different set up, Please let me know. For the battery I am still researching on. Thank you. Timothy |
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Post by Dillzio on Oct 21, 2011 14:41:59 GMT 1
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Post by supercubnz on Oct 24, 2011 7:29:14 GMT 1
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Post by psweigert on Oct 25, 2011 1:10:57 GMT 1
I keep burning out the stock motor, is this the only solution?
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Post by Dillzio on Oct 26, 2011 11:00:01 GMT 1
This is where you can get the motor mounts for the turnigy3536 / XHY3536 / C3536 www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hobbyzone-Super-Cub-Motor-Mount-Turnigy-C3536-/260868363751?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cbcf755e7www.customrcparts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2_3_80&products_id=21SupercubNZ, the difference between those motors is that the one you posted is 100kv less (so it will need a slightly larger prop) and the shaft has been reversed. Having the shaft reversed means you don't need the rotor end prop adaptor, but personally I prefer the rotor end prop adaptor - it's a much bigger bore than the shaft so you can use MAS props on it, and I think it's easier to change the shafts out if they happen to get a bit bent (no circlips involved, only allenscrews) psweigert, if you keep burning out the stock motor then you're probably using too big a prop. apparently doing a water break in on your brushless BRUSHED motor will prolong it's life, and it can be done for maintainence to clean all the crap out of it too. Basically, when you get a brand new motor the brushes are square, and they rest against the spinning rotor/commutator. The brushes only work well after a wear in period where they become worn down to be curved to the shape of the rotor, rather than square. During this wear in period while the brushes are not contacting well, they are likely to experience sparking/arcing, which can burn them out. By running the motor at 5v, and in water, you prevent it from being able to arc, while still running them in and washing away the metal filings from the brushes as they wear down. Just get some of the purest (least salty) water you can find, put the motor in there then run it at about 5V for 10-15 mins, then 12V for about 30 sec. When you see the amount of crap that comes out of the motor you'll understand the need for doing this. After you've done that, dry it under a hairdryer, and re-oil the bearings (the metal doughnut things the shaft goes through on either end of the motor) |
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Post by gagallagher04401 on Oct 26, 2011 16:05:46 GMT 1
Here is my setup all from HeadsupRc.com
It rocks! fast and fun!
A good set-up for the HZ Super Cub is:
450 Sport (includes 4mm prop adapter)
32A Power Up ESC (I used a spare E-flite 30A I had)
GWS 1060 prop
(2) TP SG90 Servo (typical 9g micro servo)
Supercub motor mount they sell
I use 3S lipos from 1550-2200mah 20-25C
Shipping is wicked cheap as well from headsuprc. I think like 2.00 and I had everything in a couple of days.
Then I sold all my stock electronics for 60.00, so I pretty much broke even.
My setup
George
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Post by flydiver on Oct 26, 2011 16:37:32 GMT 1
psweigert, if you keep burning out the stock motor then you're probably using too big a prop. apparently doing a water break in on your brushless motor will prolong it's life, and it can be done for maintainence to clean all the crap out of it too. Just get some of the purest (least salty) water you can find, put the motor in there then run it at about 5V for 10-15 mins, then 12V for about 30 sec. When you see the amount of crap that comes out of the motor you'll understand the need for doing this. After you've done that, dry it under a hairdryer, and re-oil the bearings (the metal doughnut things the shaft goes through on either end of the motor) Correction for Dil - only do this with a BRUSHED MOTOR! DO NOT water break in a brushless motor. The process is for the BRUSHES. Agree- burned out motor probably indicates too big a prop. If you are stock it's funny if you haven't burned out the ESC. |
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Post by psweigert on Oct 26, 2011 23:39:05 GMT 1
Thanks for the info... I will try that...
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Post by Dillzio on Oct 27, 2011 3:59:08 GMT 1
Oops, my bad. said brushless when I meant to say brushed - thanks for the correction Fly  |
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Post by renard80 on Oct 27, 2011 12:05:57 GMT 1
Oops, my bad. said brushless when I meant to say brushed - thanks for the correction Fly Dill, may I suggest you modify your original post with the correct information? I say this because future readers may only read your original post without coming across the later correction - and ruin their brushless motors. |
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Post by Dillzio on Oct 27, 2011 14:38:58 GMT 1
Oops, my bad. said brushless when I meant to say brushed - thanks for the correction Fly Dill, may I suggest you modify your original post with the correct information? I say this because future readers may only read your original post without coming across the later correction - and ruin their brushless motors. Bahahahaha, share some of the rotton luck around huh?  |
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Post by Dillzio on Oct 29, 2011 5:10:54 GMT 1
Oh, yeah, and come to think of it, it won't ruin the motor if you do it to a brushless, but it would be a total waste of time. After I crashed my cub into a muddy pond I had to take my brushless apart, wash it in soapy water then dry it - didn't seem to hurt it a bit... Im not too sure how happy the ESC would be though, I suppose the water might disrupt the fancy mechanism it uses to sense the position of the motor? I'm not too sure how it works myself
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